What are you talking about, I used to be a fifa boy myself when i was younger and naive! I used to be arrogant and refuse to try the PES games. Finally my brother made my buy PES 5 and i was impressed with the overall gameplay, and freedom of movement from the players! It also came to my notice that the Fifa games are becoming increasingly easier as the years go by, for example you could lob the goal keeper nearly every time from the half way line in the last one. I have downloaded and played the demos for FIFA 08 and PES 2008! I have to say that FIFA have impressed me this year with a much improved game, and the "be a pro" mode is a brilliant concept taken from Ea's American football game. However i find the movement and the turning of the players in FIFA 08 is still rather two dimensional, you can either go forward or across the pitch horizontally. Ok i know that is a preety extreme way of explaining it, but im sure you get what im saying. With PES it is easier to turn and the movement of the players are much less resticted which makes you as a player feel much less restricted about how you play the game! The game might still be based on the same engine that was used for the ps2 but didn't that provide the game we all loved playing, especially multiplayer! The graphics are a lot better and the new Ai system makes the game harder and more challenging to play! For instance a lot of players will develop a tchnique that will allow them to beat the console again and again and again! The new Ai system will stop this happening because the console learns how you play and adapts it's own style to match yours, this should make the game more realistic and challenging, where as im afraid FIFA will still have that element of ease! Therefore my recommendation has to go hands down to PES 2008, but i have to say if you decide to purchase FIFA 08 you will still have yourself an entertaining game!