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I think everybody has miles too high expectations. With the pro evo series being in my opinion, the most playable, adictive game ever, and with this being the 1st true next gen version everybody was expecting somthing that would never meet that standard, not from the first play anyway. I got hold of my copy yesterday and i was on it all night and think it is best pro evo yet, yeah the framerate isnt 100% at the moment, but its no way near as bad as everyone is making out. Well, that is with the exception of the online mode which is still in production... in brief, and from the first night of play, i think it is an absolute belter of a game - mile miles better than fifa which i think is the worst game i have played on ps3. I am truly shocked by some of the negative reviews i have read.. get it bought!