Consider this before you buy
These headphones might sound good whilst wearing them but for anyone else not wearing them they become a problem as you can hear everything the person is listening to...even at a distance of around 10 meters. There is a guy on my train in the morning who insists on wearing these over a hat and you can hear every bit of his shouty thrasher music. You constantly see people turning round throughout the carriage to see where the appalling racket is coming from. So overall a good sound but you need to take into consideration the effect on everyone else if you are going to use these for outdoor use.