This is one of the best bargains yet. I have clocked over 20 hours in these two games now, and I'm loving each second I spend in the game, I keep coming back for more! I didnt play them on the ps2, but decided to pick them up for the ps3 before I started on gow3, and man, this duo packs a punch, awesome fighting, nice puzzles that will get your brain sweating at times, and the pumped up graphics looks really good (by pumped up I mean adjusted to hd sets of our modern lives, it looks bloody good, trust me). If you havent played these games yet, what are you waiting for, you dont get more bang for your buck than this, recommended!!